that's what obama is up against. >> eliot: here's the thing. you have eloquently and precisely articulated what the state of play is although the only thing i would say is that was a statement relating more to a president who had not yet been re-elected. even though he was wrong and awfully wrong in his refusal to raise this issue in this first term, i have a lingering hope that the second term president without worries of some of those swing voters, the pennsylvania, michigan, ohio etc. who he no longer needs maybe he'll have the backbone to raise this issue. time is short tonight. i want you to come back in the next week or two because we've got to develop a strategy which elected officials we can say please, pick up this issue. run with it. it's your moral responsibility. there are others, john, i hope you'll help us to figure out who they might be. >> i would love to, and we need leadership in the media as well in washington. >> eliot: john rosenthal co-founder of to have handgun violence and the american hunters and shooters association. t